Curse

elektra_lucia · Jan 24, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

rofl, so true.

Legally · Jan 26, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Nice to see how nothing is being done..

I guess anet like when the ppl is unhappy.

Nero_Fayth · Jan 27, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Holding builds will never be a problem. Look at the guilds who run ultra-defensive builds, and then continue watching. Ganking occurs for a reason, and if a team is holding, 2 other teams are there to balance it.

IMHO leave halls the way it is. The maps before it need to change, however, but I won't get into that.

TheHaxor · Jan 27, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Man there is a lot of QQ in this thread.

I think the best thing to do is make an equal distribution of the maps after Underworld (2 cap points, 2 priest, 2 koth, 2 relic runs). The best way to do it would be to remove Fetid and add back in Broken Tower (as koth) and Sacred Temples. This allows players to get more experience of those type of maps before halls. Speaking from experience, the annihilation maps get old.

I don't really like cap points all that much. Before halls it feels like it lacks skill. In halls it is way too easy for a bad team to screw you over (much easier than the other mechanisms). It is better than kill count, but I think there is a better play type out there.

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I think it's easier to be screwed over in relic run. There's a lot of QQ in any thread. Welcome to testosterone.

TheHaxor · Jan 28, 2008, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

I think it's easier to be screwed over in relic run. There's a lot of QQ in any thread. Welcome to estrogen.

Fixed. There is more than normal in this thread.

I disagree. I see way too many teams suicide capping another teams home point, as well as not capping their own. In both those situations that team is basically giving another team the match, while effectively screwing over the third.

It is easy to screw over a team on relic run too, but it is more difficult than on cap points.

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

You didn't fix anything. I don't think you understand what I'm saying or you simply don't understand how testosterone effects a person; in addition, you probably don't realise the majority of people on the forum are going to be male.

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It is easy to screw over a team on relic run too, but it is more difficult than on cap points.

You can simply full on gank one team (and not bother to get a relic yourself)... In cap points if a team does that to you, you can fight them back or go to other points. In relic, you can't really because that will cost you too much time and your relic runner could die anyway.

Kyp Jade · Jan 28, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHaxor

I think the best thing to do is make an equal distribution of the maps after Underworld (2 cap points, 2 priest, 2 koth, 2 relic runs). The best way to do it would be to remove Fetid and add back in Broken Tower (as koth) and Sacred Temples. This allows players to get more experience of those type of maps before halls. Speaking from experience, the annihilation maps get old.

Maybe when I am bored, I will go through all of the older posts and in other threads, and quote what you said, but from 10 million different people.

Also, Ive seen some teams figure out how to deal with ganks on cap points, but your always hosed on relic run if they full block your relic.

TheHaxor · Jan 28, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

You didn't fix anything. I don't think you understand what I'm saying or you simply don't understand how testosterone effects a person; in addition, you probably don't realise the majority of people on the forum are going to be male.

You can simply full on gank one team (and not bother to get a relic yourself)... In cap points if a team does that to you, you can fight them back or go to other points. In relic, you can't really because that will cost you too much time and your relic runner could die anyway.

you are dumb =/

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

The majority of the game is males. Males generally have a more competitive nature. Look at how we used to compete for the female... Testosterone can make one more likely to be angry and competitive. If you take women that are very physical and sporty, competitive, generally you will find they have higher testosterone levels. Not to the point they become what we know as a stereotype of 'butch' females, so please don't go into that.

Often it is anger and competitiveness in my opinion that turns threads into a whine fest. Your original comment was that this thread has a lot of 'QQing' I believe? QQ I'm to believe is a symbol for crying because of the little tails on what would be an eye. It is pointless to pick up on the female hormone and say that is why this thread turned the way it did.

Perhaps I am the dumb one but with what little intelligence I have I try to educate myself. You have not done that.

P.S. I'm not the one arguing that you can be ganked easier on cap points when in relic all they have to do is kill your runner or block him and he can't fight back while he is holding it

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TheHaxor · Jan 28, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

The majority of the game is males. Males generally have a more competitive nature. Look at how we used to compete for the female... Testosterone can make one more likely to be angry and competitive. If you take women that are very physical and sporty, competitive, generally you will find they have higher testosterone levels. Not to the point they become what we know as a stereotype of 'butch' females, so please don't go into that.

Often it is anger and competitiveness in my opinion that turns threads into a whine fest. Your original comment was that this thread has a lot of 'QQing' I believe? QQ I'm to believe is a symbol for crying because of the little tails on what would be an eye. It is pointless to pick up on the female hormone and say that is why this thread turned the way it did.

Perhaps I am the dumb one but with what little intelligence I have I try to educate myself. You have not done that.

P.S. I'm not the one arguing that you can be ganked easier on cap points when in relic all they have to do is kill your runner or block him and he can't fight back while he is holding it

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I love how you try to drag every thread off topic with your pointless bullshit. No one cares.

I was trying to say the people in this thread were acting like girls, but I guess that's too hard for you to understand.

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Originally Posted by Kyp Jade

Also, Ive seen some teams figure out how to deal with ganks on cap points, but your always hosed on relic run if they full block your relic.

I assume you are talking about bridge blocking? In that case you are indeed hosed, but I only usually see the holding team pull that out in order to win.

Other than that, there is nothing wrong with normal body blocking. I wouldn't consider that being screwed over since the team made a nice play on your runner.

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

You were saying people were whining, it would only be a sexist pig that would say such a thing as 'people are acting like girls'. I brought up testosterone for the factual reason of it. Not because of a childish insult. If you just said 'they were acting like girls' then maybe I could entertain the idea enough to some what agree with it, but you didn't. You said there was a lot of QQ in this thread. Which is the same as every thread, welcome to testosterone... Before you argue with this, just go read up. Don't pm me how you've studied. You clearly haven't studied enough.

All you have is your ridiculous insults, sexist views and what's more - blind vision because of it. You dragged the thread more off topic. I made quite a small comment and you tried to correct it while actually making it incorrect. I don't want someone with half my I.Q to try correct me.

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I assume you are talking about bridge blocking? In that case you are indeed hosed, but I only usually see the holding team pull that out in order to win.

Other than that, there is nothing wrong with normal body blocking. I wouldn't consider that being screwed over since the team made a nice play on your runner.

Don't go by what you see. Go by the mechanics of the game. It is -easier- to ruin a match for a team in relic because you can send -all- your team to gank them and the mechanics of the game are such that there is really -nothing- the -other- team can -do-.

Do you grasp this point, oh bright one?

P.S. Sorry for pissing on your flame.

P.P.S As for your insults in PM saying I'm a bad player. I don't care. This thread isn't about me being a good player. Try to argue with factual evidence rather than your ridiculous opinions.

TheHaxor · Jan 28, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

Don't go by what you see. Go by the mechanics of the game. It is -easier- to ruin a match for a team in relic because you can send -all- your team to gank them and the mechanics of the game are such that there is really -nothing- the -other- team can -do-.

Do you grasp this point, oh bright one?

P.S. Sorry for pissing on your flame.

Who gives a shit about organized ganks? I'm more concerned about losing because one of the other teams is bad. Losing because one of the other teams doesn't know how to play the map properly pisses me off more than losing because of a successful, organized strategy.

I can't believe how stupid you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

P.P.S As for your insults in PM saying I'm a bad player. I don't care. This thread isn't about me being a good player. Try to argue with factual evidence rather than your ridiculous opinions.

You're the one who started with the PM bullshit. I don't care about you or your opinion because your opinion is usually bad.

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07

If the other team is really bad in cap points it won't be that hard to kill them. In relic if they are bad they might not know who is up in points and then go for the wrong team. I've seen this happen a lot. It all depends on your definition of bad also... In my opinion it is often bad teams that gank... I say often, obviously there's exceptions...

You keep saying I'm stupid... For intelligence you should learn to accept you do not know as much as you think you do; therefore, you should not get a surprise. I'm intelligent enough to know that I don't know about things. With this in mind, I get NO surprises from your ability to impress me with your intelligence/lack off... Of course, I'll keep my actual view discrete in this post. If you get surprises all the time it's because you have fixed views. If you have such fixed views then you won't learn something. Intelligent people have no difficulty in learning things.

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You're the one who started with the PM bullshit. I don't care about you or your opinion because your opinion is usually bad.

I never PM'd you that you're a bad player. My recent comment was regarding your PM saying I'm a bad player. Not the PM itself. The fact you said I'm a bad player. It would of been nice for you to have just read up about testosterone...

Ironic isn't it?

You're too stubborn to read up on it.
You can't even use the forum functions correctly (look at the mess you made of your PM).
You have sexist views about women.
You completely derail this topic.
You keep insulting my stupidity.
You really have shown great anger towards me.
You've made this thread look like a whine thread if it didn't already...

And I'm the stupid one

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Now... If someone like you says: WOW THIS THREAD IS FULL OF QQ. I'll say: Welcome to testosterone... They will say: estrogen... And I'll be like, it's from competitive behaviour... You can't back down. No, you're too competitive for that...

Lews · Jan 28, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

elektra_lucia

I'm going to ask you to never talk again, and probably uninstall guild wars. To be safe follow these steps: pick up your computer. Go to a window. Drop it out the window. Then go live a fruitful life at McDonalds. Thank you.

In all seriousness, 15 year old Sophomores in High School who just learned what Testosterone is should stop trying to pretend they're cool and smart. They should learn what the hell they're talking bout first.

And as someone who has a mere 17,000 fame on my primary account, and had 2 accounts with over 12,000 fame, I'm going to request that they change HoH back into how it was when the game started. Rifts and everything.

Lews

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Well it depends on how the whining started. In my opinion it is from a competitive aggressive behaviour. I think this is summed up by the PM's saying I should kill myself or you saying I should throw my computer out the window...

So if we are to agree (which you probably won't) on how the whining came about... Then to look at the effects of testosterone... Perhaps you can see some logic in what I was saying?

Of course, I could be wrong. You aren't giving a good way to support your argument. Also, just because you have lots of fame compared to a rank3, you still paid the same money for the game(s).

I find it interesting you use an American term. I am from England. Also, I am older than 'the haxor'. I do not know how old you are but if you are going to bring up age bring up his first.

*edit*

http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/testost/story.htm

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/medther/taye...ne_patches.htm

Go nuts~~

Lews · Jan 28, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Did you know Hitler had the High Score but he still lost the game?

elektra_lucia · Jan 28, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Are you talking about your recent match 'owns'?

^_^

shoogi · Jan 29, 2008, 02:22 PM // 14:22

hmm, I have no idea how this thread became a discussion about the effects of testosterone on the human mind, but about the ganking issue I can say that 1v1 halls matches, which ofc don't have any ganking, are even more boring than 1v1v1 ones imo. Again, I think that the heart of the problem isn't sucky teams that got a skip and chose which team they hate less, though I agree that this issue unfortunately exists. The main problem is that the objectives and mechanics of ab and relic run fail.

Ekelon · Jan 29, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

I liked the oldschool alter cap. Even though it was super cheap, it was short and fun. It required skill and 1 second decisions to decide who would win. I also liked 6v6 format.